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JayEmEl Featured By Owner May 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's one thing I never really understood, and it's absolutely not to be mean or insulting, but why is it popular to sexualize Raven? She doesn't need to be sexualized. She's already really bad-ass and attractive. And displaying her in proportions that aren't hers and in inappropriate clothing she would never wear seems like a kind of disrespect to her character and personality? Maybe? I mean, I know some drawings are just for fun, but it just seems to me that real artistic talent is being able to make her look sexy without altering her main attributes. I dunno, perhaps I'm just too serious of fan and feel the need to protect her image... This is all on friendly terms, by the way.
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BDOG375 Featured By Owner May 15, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
People do this to all kinds of characters that would never wear those types of clothing or ever be in those poses, but ya know, every fandom has its dark side
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daredevinho Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Some people to that because of fetishes. They must satify themselves, or otherselves. You're right, she doesn't need to be sexualized; they are just perverts. There are so many over sexual characters to get crazy about, that there's no reason to - to blasfemy her!
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JayEmEl Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I gotta agree. There are so many characters out there just for those people that like the unrealistic proportions and degraded clothing. Why bring the self-respecting characters into it? They are awesome as they are, and if someone doesn't like them as they are, then that's their problem, right? I mean, I completely understand that everyone has a right to their freedom of expression, but I'm pretty sure there's line between being creative and being, well...disrespectful/perverted. And sometimes it's really unfortunate, because some of those pics are actually really cool, but then the fantasized version of the body just ruins it. 
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MasterghostUnlimited Featured By Owner May 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well u see she's sexy and a badass its her popular style if you wanted to make her the sexiest badass go for it if you want to make her regual then its alight for u
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Glee-chan Featured By Owner May 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The reason is pretty simple.  People have a cartoon-crush on her, so they are living out their fantasy.  It's not some big statement or anything.  I personally agree with you in that I don't like it at all when people drastically change her body proportions to fit their personal tastes.  I mean, I get a variation of art-styles, but the monster-boobs, big-ass, slutty-ravens out there just confuse me.  If you love the character and are into her, fine.  But changing her?  There are plenty of monster-boobs, big-ass, slutty characters out there to get into.  So why change Raven?

(Of course, I shouldn't talk.  I'm constantly putting her in sexual situations)
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JayEmEl Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel that putting Raven in "sexual situations" isn't necessarily wrong, because it's still a possibility. She's not asexual. I'd be picky about that kind of pic, though, because I rather a romantic scene far more than a downright dirty one, and I feel that a romantic scene is what we'd see Raven in more, but I guess that's just my personal preferences. That aside, it's like you said: the utterly unrealistic and degraded body versions of Raven are what make me angry. She's too much of a cool, reserved, self-respecting character, and she doesn't deserve that kind of fan art. I mean, I know talking about it isn't going to change anything, and I am being kind of harsh, but I think the point I was trying to make is basically all there. And I'm by no means trying to be insulting or anything, just wanting to express my point of view. 
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auriceli Featured By Owner May 5, 2015  Professional Filmographer
I agree, Raven doesn't need all this oversexualization. Especially since many of us became interested in Raven due to the show, which was aimed at young audiences.
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AmethystSadachbia Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So, is this chiefly a group for fans of animated Raven? I like both comic and cartoon versions of the character, and the one I usually draw is a combination of features from both. ^^
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Glee-chan Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's for all versions of the character.  If you're version is a kind of a mix between the two, I guess putting your drawings in "Alternative Outfits" is probably the best way.  It's sort of a judgement call on your part if your drawing is based more on the comics or the cartoon.  If it's in the wrong folder, don't worry about it.  Either I or daredevinho will figure it out.
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